PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES

HOUSE OF COMMONS

OFFICIAL REPORT

Second Standing Committee on Statutory Instruments, &c.

DRAFT CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT 1988 (DESIGNATED COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES) (AMENDMENT) ORDER 1993

DRAFT DRUG TRAFFICKING OFFENCES ACT 1986 (DESIGNATED COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES) (AMENDMENT) ORDER 1993

DRAFT CRIMINAL JUSTICE (INTERNATIONAL CO-OPERATION) ACT 1990 (ENFORCEMENT OF OVERSEAS FORFEITURE ORDERS) (AMENDMENT) ORDER 1993

Monday 14 June 1993

LONDON: HMSO

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The Committee consisted of the following Members:

Chairman: Mr. Frank Cook

Ainsworth, Mr. Robert (Coventry, North-East)

Arbuthnot, Mr. James (Wanstead and Woodford)

Bermingham, Mr. Gerald (St. Helens, South)

Butterfill, Mr. John (Bournemouth, West)

Byers, Mr. Stephen (Wallsend)

Clark, Dr. Michael (Rochford)

Colvin, Mr. Michael (Romsey and Waterside)

Coombs, Mr. Anthony (Wyre Forest)

Evennett, Mr. David (Erith and Cray ford)

Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley)

Gerrard, Mr. Neil (Walthamstow)

Howell, Mr. Ralph (Norfolk, North)

Maclean, Mr. David (Minister of State, Home Office)

Maclennan, Mr. Robert (Caithness and Sutherland)

Michael, Mr. Alun (Cardiff, South and Penarth)

Montgomery, Sir Fergus (Altrincham and Sale)

Tipping, Mr. Paddy (Sherwood)

Wicks, Mr. Malcolm (Croydon, North-West)

Mr. R. G. James, Committee Clerk

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3 Second Standing Committee on Statutory Instruments, &c. Monday 14 June 1993

[MR. FRANK COOK in the Chair]

Draft Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) Order 1993 and the draft Drug Trafficking Offences Act 1986 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) Order 1993 and the draft Criminal Justice (International Co- operation) Act 1990 (Enforcement of Overseas Forfeiture Orders) (Amendment) Order 1993

4.33 pm

The Minister of State, Home Office (Mr. David Maclean): I beg to move, That the Committee has considered the draft Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) Order 1993.

The Chairman: With the agreement of the Committee, it will be convenient to discuss at the same time the other two orders before us, namely, the draft Drug Trafficking Offences Act 1986 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) Order 1993 and the draft Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) Act 1990 (Enforcement of Overseas Forfeiture Orders) (Amendment) Order 1993.

4.34 pm

Mr. Alun Michael (Cardiff, South and Penarth): I am grateful to you, Mr. Cook, for the opportunity to ask the Minister to tell us the reasons for the designation of specific countries in the three orders. In some cases, that is obvious—for example, in relation to the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics—but in other cases, it is not so obvious and it would be helpful if the Minister outlined the reasoning behind the selection of countries.

Mr. Maclean: By all means. The way in which we select countries depends on several factors. Plainly, we wish to target countries that are major financial centres; others will be important as major drug producers or transit countries. However, the overriding principle is that it is essential that such countries should have in place legislation that is 4 compatible with our own before any amendment can be concluded. Therefore, yes, one day soon we should like to add some other countries to the list and negotiations are under way. I do not suggest that this list is exhaustive of the top priorities. Of course, some top priorities are included, as are other countries that are lesser priorities. We have managed speedily to conclude agreements. We shall continue trying to conclude agreements with other countries where our advisers, especially the police, recommend that agreements would be satisfactory and sensible.

Mr. Michael: Is the Minister satisfied that, in the case of each country designated in the order, the legislation is appropriate and suitable? In relation to countries where there is simply a change in the arrangements—the former eastern European countries—are the arrangements in the new country suitable now, as presumably they were at the time of the original designation?

Mr. Maclean: Yes, sir. That is an essential requirement of these orders. We should not have brought them this far if we were not content that there were satisfactory legal arrangements in the countries that we are designating.

Question put and agreed to.

Resolved, That the Committee has considered the draft Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) Order 1993.

THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS ATTENDED THE COMMITTEE:

Cook, Mr. Frank (Chairman)

Arbuthnot, Mr.

Butterfill, Mr.

Clark, Dr. Michael

Colvin, Mr.

Coombs, Mr. Anthony

Evennett, Mr.

Fox, Sir Marcus

Maclean, Mr.

Michael, Mr.

Montgomery, Sir Fergus

Wicks, Mr.

Draft Drug Trafficking Offences Act 1986 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) Order 1993

Resolved,

That the Committee has considered the draft Drug Trafficking Offences Act 1986 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) Order 1993.—[Mr. Maclean.]

Draft Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) Act 1990 (Enforcement of Overseas Forfeiture Orders) (Amendment) Order 1993

Resolved,

That the Committee has considered the draft Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) Act 1990 (Enforcement of Overseas Forefiture Orders) (Amendment) Order 1993.—[Mr. Maclean.]

Committee rose at twenty-three minutes to Five o'clock.